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[https://rc3.world/rc3/event/eventgrid-dc-micro-grid-meetup-day-3/ EventGrid // DC MicroGrid Meetup Day 3]
 
[https://rc3.world/rc3/event/eventgrid-dc-micro-grid-meetup-day-3/ EventGrid // DC MicroGrid Meetup Day 3]
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== Introductions ==
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skipping people who were at [[20201228 rC3 Meetup|yesterday's meetup]]
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* Martin: Libre Solar
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* hk: modular battery based on 18650s in euroboxes, with DC-DC charge controllers for each box. Has a lot of 18650 batteries for use in a battery system.
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* ecki: built own BMS, started PWM DC-DC Controller, using same TI chip as libre.solar, slightly smaller in terms of power. No documentation (yet?)
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* Jeremail: Has a small setup with multiple dc-dc-converters
  
* Martin: Libre Solar
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== LibreSolar DC Grid ==
** DC Grid for Rural electrification
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DC Grid for Rural electrification
-> today: tiny home systems, >=50W, usually proprietary
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* today: tiny home systems, >=50W, usually proprietary
-> Interconnect those systems?
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** Interconnect those systems?
 
* Test run in UK, w/ 4 participants
 
* Test run in UK, w/ 4 participants
* Project planned in Ruanda
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* Another Project planned in Ruanda
 
* Some of the developments are supposed to go back into Libre Solar
 
* Some of the developments are supposed to go back into Libre Solar
 
* Solar charger 12V/24V, grid 48V
 
* Solar charger 12V/24V, grid 48V
 
* Working on new version of the [https://github.com/LibreSolar/mppt-2420-hc 20A controller], potentially available ready built then. ETA maybe Jan/Feb 2021 - Martin will post costs in Telegram channel if anyone would like to order one. The more orders, the cheaper it will be, although there is no minimum order.
 
* Working on new version of the [https://github.com/LibreSolar/mppt-2420-hc 20A controller], potentially available ready built then. ETA maybe Jan/Feb 2021 - Martin will post costs in Telegram channel if anyone would like to order one. The more orders, the cheaper it will be, although there is no minimum order.
Plans for a bigger charge controller (120V input) for wind generators (https://windempowerment.com/) -> Send a message to Martin if you want to be involved
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* Plans for a bigger charge controller (120V input) for wind generators (https://windempowerment.com/) -> Send a message to Martin if you want to be involved
 
* Has some 400WH second-hand e-scooter batteries he wants to use but has not had time yet.
 
* Has some 400WH second-hand e-scooter batteries he wants to use but has not had time yet.
  
hk: modular battery based on 18650s in euroboxes, with DC-DC charge controllers for each box. Has a lot of 18650 batteries for use in a battery system.
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== DC-DC-Converter by Zoe and Elen ==
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* https://fully.automated.ee/raccoon.html
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* Not available yet, but maybe/hopefully for MCH? -> https://twitter.com/tachiniererin/status/1343955837258248192
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* Maybe ask them for an earlier version?
  
DC-DC usually one low-voltage side, one high-voltage side, so it's easer to have a 48V grid with a 24V battery. Adapting a 48V battery to a 48V grid is much harder.
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== Old AltPwr Website ==
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[[User:Tiefpunkt|tiefpunkt]] tried to recover the old-old altpwr Website from the Internet Archive. Partial success:
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* [http://altpwr-archive.tiefpunkt.com/ Website mirror]
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* [https://github.com/tiefpunkt/altpwr.net-archive GitHub repo] if you can help fix some broken links
  
DC-DC-Converter by Zoe and Elen
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== Festival Grid ==
https://fully.automated.ee/raccoon.html
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Power metering using tasmota-compatible smart home devices. Were funded by Prototype Fund.
https://twitter.com/tachiniererin/status/1343955837258248192
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* [https://festivalgrid.org/ Website]
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* Might be also possible for 48VDC
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* Worth to take a look, for MCH?
  
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== Portable power-mesh nodes ==
 +
* based on hk's battery modules
 +
* Goal Zero Yeti do some "meshing" which is more a daisy chaining, but isn't very efficient. The systems do communication between each other, probably via the charging cable.
  
[https://festivalgrid.org/ Festival Grid] - Power metering using tasmota-compatible smart home devices. Might be also possible for 48VDC
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== Jeremail's setup ==
 
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Could e-bike batteries be used so that an entirely new battery system does not need to be created and the focus can be on connectivity and DC-DC converters/chargers etc?
Old AltPwr Website
+
Bought a few hundred bosch lawnmower 9s2p battery packs, and have no BMS!
* http://altpwr-archive.tiefpunkt.com/user-information/  
 
* https://github.com/tiefpunkt/altpwr.net-archive
 
  
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== MCH Prep ==
 
Monthly/bimonthly meetings to prep for MCH
 
Monthly/bimonthly meetings to prep for MCH
 
* Make a list of stuff people can bring
 
* Make a list of stuff people can bring
 
* tiefpunkt will set something up and post it in the telegram group
 
* tiefpunkt will set something up and post it in the telegram group
  
Open source DC-DC converter for "small" power sources
+
== Misc notes ==
 
+
* DC-DC converters usually one low-voltage side, one high-voltage side, so it's easer to have a 48V grid with a 24V battery. Adapting a 48V battery to a 48V grid is much harder.
Portable power-mesh nodes
+
* Open source DC-DC converter for "small" power sources?
* based on hk's battery modules
 
* Goal Zero Yeti do some "meshing" which is more a daisy chaining, but isn't very efficient. The systems do communication between each other, probably via the charging cable.
 
 
 
Jeremail: Has a small setup with multiple dc-dc-converters
 
Could e-bike batteries be used so that an entirely new battery system does not need to be created and the focus can be on connectivity and DC-DC converters/chargers etc?
 
Bought a few hundred bosch lawnmower 9s2p battery packs, and have no BMS!
 
 
 
ecki: done own BMS, started PWM DC-DC Controller, using same TI chip as libre.solar, slightly smaller in terms of power.
 
  
 
[[Category:Meeting Minutes]]
 
[[Category:Meeting Minutes]]

Revision as of 02:00, 30 December 2020

EventGrid // DC MicroGrid Meetup Day 3

Introductions

skipping people who were at yesterday's meetup

  • Martin: Libre Solar
  • hk: modular battery based on 18650s in euroboxes, with DC-DC charge controllers for each box. Has a lot of 18650 batteries for use in a battery system.
  • ecki: built own BMS, started PWM DC-DC Controller, using same TI chip as libre.solar, slightly smaller in terms of power. No documentation (yet?)
  • Jeremail: Has a small setup with multiple dc-dc-converters

LibreSolar DC Grid

DC Grid for Rural electrification

  • today: tiny home systems, >=50W, usually proprietary
    • Interconnect those systems?
  • Test run in UK, w/ 4 participants
  • Another Project planned in Ruanda
  • Some of the developments are supposed to go back into Libre Solar
  • Solar charger 12V/24V, grid 48V
  • Working on new version of the 20A controller, potentially available ready built then. ETA maybe Jan/Feb 2021 - Martin will post costs in Telegram channel if anyone would like to order one. The more orders, the cheaper it will be, although there is no minimum order.
  • Plans for a bigger charge controller (120V input) for wind generators (https://windempowerment.com/) -> Send a message to Martin if you want to be involved
  • Has some 400WH second-hand e-scooter batteries he wants to use but has not had time yet.

DC-DC-Converter by Zoe and Elen

Old AltPwr Website

tiefpunkt tried to recover the old-old altpwr Website from the Internet Archive. Partial success:

Festival Grid

Power metering using tasmota-compatible smart home devices. Were funded by Prototype Fund.

  • Website
  • Might be also possible for 48VDC
  • Worth to take a look, for MCH?

Portable power-mesh nodes

  • based on hk's battery modules
  • Goal Zero Yeti do some "meshing" which is more a daisy chaining, but isn't very efficient. The systems do communication between each other, probably via the charging cable.

Jeremail's setup

Could e-bike batteries be used so that an entirely new battery system does not need to be created and the focus can be on connectivity and DC-DC converters/chargers etc? Bought a few hundred bosch lawnmower 9s2p battery packs, and have no BMS!

MCH Prep

Monthly/bimonthly meetings to prep for MCH

  • Make a list of stuff people can bring
  • tiefpunkt will set something up and post it in the telegram group

Misc notes

  • DC-DC converters usually one low-voltage side, one high-voltage side, so it's easer to have a 48V grid with a 24V battery. Adapting a 48V battery to a 48V grid is much harder.
  • Open source DC-DC converter for "small" power sources?